[W6YRA] UHF Kit Transmitter (rocket recovery beacon)
Ryan Caron
rcaron at igpp.ucla.edu
Fri Apr 8 11:18:36 PDT 2016
Eric (CC'ing ham club & other rocketeers),
Yes, I was able to place the http://fmtv.us/rf_beacon.html transmitter
on NPS' rocket. It worked great! The flight was estimated to do 8 G's
and reach 4000ft (they executed a turn with servo-driven fins). It was
probably beeping away for an hour before it launched, and perhaps an
hour afterwards by the time it was picked up and disassembled.
They placed the beacon inside their lower avionics bay (which stays with
their motor - they fully separate and come down on two chutes), so the
antenna was pretty close to threaded rods and other metal. Not ideal,
but their body was fiberglass at least. Even when it was relatively
close overhead (right when the chutes deployed) I could still only hear
the first two tones. I think you guys can do a much better job with
transmitter placement on the glider, but it will be important on the
rocket body to get out of the carbon fiber and away from metal
structure. Hanging on the descent lanyard is not a bad idea.
Anyway, once it landed on the ground, approx 5600ft away ENE of the
launch site, I couldn't actually hear the beacon at all - even after
removing my offset attenuator and horizontally polarizing the antenna.
Their upper half had an even slower descent rate and traveled 6400ft
away, and took a bit longer to find, so there is value in having
multiple transmitters in different sections.
They had all sorts of expensive avionics (like a serious IMU) in the
upper section though, so even though they knew it would travel further
they didn't want to risk any incompatibilities. 50W TDP all told, and
they cooled with dry ice (fantastic idea!).
Once I got within 4200ft or so of the lower section (these are all rough
numbers based on Google Earth and remembering the terrain - no GPS
waypoints) I started hearing tones again. The terrain was a gentle
uphill slope, so if anything the receiver was being presented to me, but
I did not have a visual despite no significant hills/valleys. Evidently
it doesn't take much to block a ~50mW transmission just a few inches
above the ground. Some scrub brush may be enough.
Since I was on foot, and the NPS guys had a van, they picked up the
lower half when I was still about 3000ft away. At that point I still
hadn't picked up the 3rd (highest pitch, lowest power) tone. So I didn't
really get a chance to really try out the offset attenuator (useful for
~500ft range, but you still can't find the thing). I did try it
pre-launch, and in that case it worked pretty well (but that's cheating
since I knew where it was).
and that will improve range, but there are higher power levels available
to too if you need significantly more range than this.
I used my D72 HT for this, with your Arrow UHF antenna, but there's no
reason you guys can't use one of my cheap Baofengs when you go to Utah.
A few suggestions for next time, these are all pretty basic RDF things -
I'm just a bit out of practice.
1) head downrange and a little cross track in advance - the launch crew
will get their own bearing by watching it on the chutes, but since
you're prepositioned elsewhere you can both go toward it and when you
intersect you know you're in the right place. This is especially helpful
if all you have is visual if the beacon broke (or you have unintended
separations, etc).
2) a 2nd person with a radio & a yagi can also speed up triangulation
3) have some compasses, and voice radios to communicate with everybody.
A few positions & bearings and someone with a laptop can estimate a
position pretty fast using Google Earth.
The beacon & rest of the gear is at home right now, but I can bring it
back to campus on Monday.
Ryan Caron
Associate Development Engineer
UCLA - Institute of Geophysics & Planetary Physics
Tel 310-267-0696 | Cell 603-801-8233
On 4/5/2016 11:30 PM, ERIC HIDALGO wrote:
> Hey Ryan,
>
> Thanks for your help during the Hot Fire with the launch box issues.
> I heard that you were able to place the UHF transmitter onto a rocket also.
> Was the transmitter able to still work?
>
> Best,
> Eric
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