[W6YRA] Joining the club

Thu Jul 2 14:16:41 PDT 2020

No, in fact the computer was physically disassembled and the parts
scattered throughout the shack.  This was a step beyond their usual
appropriation of our computers...

On 2020-07-02 14:07, Ryan P. Caron wrote:
> All,
> 
> Yes this mess is of my making.
> 
> Bruin Space has grown beyond my control, and I have stopped advising and
> supporting their projects a couple years ago as Brent mentioned. Prior
> to that point, I have not been able to gain traction with the
> engineering department to get them out or get them a new space. In their
> mind it is a simple matter of participation levels and limited space,
> with W6YRA having one/few students versus the dozens associated with
> Bruin Space.
> 
> My understanding is that no damage or theft has occurred. Equipment has
> merely been disconnected. So I don't understand the suggestion to
> involve UCPD.
> 
> Facilities Management / electrical room is an interesting and
> potentially the best approach.
> 
> However, I am weary of the emergency communication center approach. That
> implies a degree of readiness, drills/practice, checks, backup power.
> The list can go on and on. Even the most cursory scrutiny would show
> that we do not currently meet this - and did not meet even prior to this
> Bruin Space issue.
> 
> NX1U
> 
> Ryan Caron
> Principal Development Engineer
> UCLA - Earth, Planetary, and Space Sciences
> 
> On 7/2/2020 1:50 PM, Jim Montague wrote:
>> Correction on where the funds came from to buy the radio equipment and
>> antenna. These were not donations they were grants given to the radio
>> club from the state. Dr. Paul Wang was our faculty advisor and he was
>> the one who was able to obtain the grants. He is now since passed away
>>
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>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Jim Montague <monty9 at msn.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 2, 2020 1:09:53 PM
>> *To:* Brent Corbin <corbin at physics.ucla.edu>;
>> w6yra at lists.igpp.ucla.edu <w6yra at lists.igpp.ucla.edu>; Wong, Harold
>> <HAWong at mednet.ucla.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [W6YRA] Joining the club
>>  
>> Also when you talk to the building manager advised him that this room
>> is a emergency disaster Communications operations center. The repeater
>> in this room has a radio system that directly connects to Facilities
>> Management disaster Communications room. In the event of an emergency,
>> an operator would go to the boelter hall Radio Room and communicate
>> with the disaster Communications officer at facilities management.
>> Facilities Management has a base station and five handheld radios in
>> order to communicate with the operator at boelter Hall. I am the one
>> who set up the emergency communications system in both areas and Doug
>> Grody who is administrator at facilities management is the one who
>> provided the purchase order to buy this equipment.
>>
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>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Jim Montague <monty9 at msn.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 2, 2020 1:04:04 PM
>> *To:* Brent Corbin <corbin at physics.ucla.edu>;
>> w6yra at lists.igpp.ucla.edu <w6yra at lists.igpp.ucla.edu>; Wong, Harold
>> <HAWong at mednet.ucla.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [W6YRA] Joining the club
>>  
>> If this group destroyed the Bruin amateur radio club property then you
>> must go to UCPD and file a report ASAP. The radio equipment (flex
>> 3000) and the computer were purchased new from donated funds as was a
>> new vertical antenna. The total cost of these items was somewhere
>> around $3,000. This room actually belongs to facilities Management
>> because it is an electrical room as you can see from the switch gear
>> in there. If they have blocked any of this area, call the fire marshal
>> and advised them that this group has created a serious fire hazard and
>> code violation. There comes a time when being nice no longer works and
>> you must go the legal route. I spent long hard hours getting this room
>> back up to being a fully functional Radio Room and to watch it all go
>> down the tube does not make me very happy at all. If you need to find
>> the building managers name and phone number contact facilities
>> management which is just behind the UC Police Department. Or just look
>> up their number in the directory and you can call them directly and
>> ask them for the building managers name and phone number.
>> Jim
>>
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>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Brent Corbin <corbin at physics.ucla.edu>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 2, 2020, 12:48 PM
>> *To:* Jim Montague; w6yra at lists.igpp.ucla.edu; Wong, Harold
>> *Subject:* Re: [W6YRA] Joining the club
>>
>> Hi Jim -
>>
>> I was trying to keep Ryan's name out of it, but - yeah - he's the one
>> who let Bruin Space borrow and eventually take over the space.  I tried
>> to rein-in the situation a couple of years ago (including changing the
>> door-code and requiring that BSpace only use the shack under
>> supervision), they went behind our back and we received an email from
>> Engineering placing the shack under supervision of their advisor.  Rules
>> were put in place, but - with the exception of removing the couch - they
>> were all ignored.  I asked Ryan to intervene and nothing happened.  Gear
>> was tampered with, crap was piled up on our operating positions. The
>> last straws for me were when they disassembled the computer we had
>> rebuilt to run the flex SDR and scattered the pieces all over the shack
>> and disabled the internet connection to the echolink controller on the
>> repeater.
>>
>> I'm in Physics, and the email I received in 2018 made it clear
>> engineering saw this as THEIR space.  (They passed a rule the next year
>> stating that advisors for engineering clubs need to be in the
>> engineering department, so they probably think YRA is an engineering
>> club. hi)
>>
>> Anyway - what are the chances the building manager would be supportive,
>> and how likely would engineering be to accede?  This really needs to be
>> taken care of once and for all.   (Though, possibly, after the virus
>> blows through and we're allowed back on campus 8*) ).  This was once,
>> and could be, again, one hell of a resource for faculty, staff and
>> students...
>>
>> Thanks for checking in, good to hear from you again Jim, it's been a
>> long time.  Stay well and 73...     //Brent wy6s
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2020-07-02 11:47, Jim Montague wrote:
>> > My name is Jim Montague and I am a past president of the UCLA amateur
>> > radio club. I retired last year but I have not been the president of the
>> > club for some time. Ryan Caron took over as president. The last I knew
>> > he was still working in the geology building where he has an office. As
>> > for the engineering department giving our room away, they don't have the
>> > authority to do so. The room is maintained by the boelter hall building
>> > manager. This is an equipment room  and not a classroom. We have had
>> > this room since the late 1940s or early 1950s. It is my understanding
>> > that Ryan allowed a satellite group to share the room with us. When I
>> > was up there over a year-and-a-half ago I found they had pretty much
>> > taken over the whole room and I advised them that they need to condense
>> > their area down. I would suggest somebody get in contact with the
>> > Bolterhall building manager and let him know that this group has
>> > completely taken over the room and that you want the room back. Best of
>> > luck to all of you. 73, Jim NI6J
>> >
>> > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > *From:* w6yra-bounces at lists.igpp.ucla.edu
>> > <w6yra-bounces at lists.igpp.ucla.edu> on behalf of Wong, Harold
>> > <HAWong at mednet.ucla.edu>
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2020 11:35:39 PM
>> > *To:* Brent Corbin <corbin at physics.ucla.edu>; w6yra at lists.igpp.ucla.edu
>> > <w6yra at lists.igpp.ucla.edu>
>> > *Subject:* Re: [W6YRA] Joining the club
>> >  
>> > Hi Xiaofeng,
>> >
>> > This is Harold KM6IVE. Welcome aboard. I hope to get my general sometime
>> > this year. I currently work at the hospital but unfortunately, I'm
>> > working from home and rarely on W6YRA given how inactive the repeater
>> > is. I can get back on for a QSO next week.
>> >
>> > Harold
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > *From:* w6yra-bounces at lists.igpp.ucla.edu
>> > <w6yra-bounces at lists.igpp.ucla.edu> on behalf of Brent Corbin
>> > <corbin at physics.ucla.edu>
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:30 PM
>> > *To:* w6yra at lists.igpp.ucla.edu <w6yra at lists.igpp.ucla.edu>
>> > *Subject:* Re: [W6YRA] Joining the club
>> >  
>> > Hi Xiaofeng, and congratulations on getting your license!
>> >
>> > We do have a club, but it's not active at present - short version, the
>> > engineering department gave our shack space away to another group and we
>> > have not been able to get back in and use the gear we have.  This was
>> > supposed to be addressed and fixed a couple of years ago by the
>> > gentleman who created the problem in the first place, but he went AWOL
>> > and left the club in limbo.  It's been frustrating, to say the least.
>> > We've got a full HF station, and at one point I had some of my personal
>> > gear up there for 220 MHz, 927 MHz and 440/DMR...  We had some folks
>> > lined-up to donate a couple repeaters (927 and 440/DMR) and we lost all
>> > that because this individual didn't get their * together... oh well.
>> >
>> > We do have an analog repeater - it transmits on 448.54 MHz and listens
>> > on 443.54 MHz with a PL of 88.5.  At one time we had remote access to
>> > the repeater via echolink, but that's been down since the other group
>> > pulled the internet access.  I can monitor the repeater from a remote
>> > receiver in my office, but - unfortunately - I live too far away to be
>> > able to use it from home (where I'm likely to be until we're all back on
>> > campus).  When we return to campus, I will be monitoring the repeater
>> > whenever I'm in my office and will probably bring gear in for other
>> > bands and other modes (though I'm essentially in a ground-floor Faraday
>> > cage 8*) ).
>> >
>> > So what department are you in?  What are your radio interests?  I have
>> > done a lot of digital communications - Olivia, Thor, FeldHell, PSK and
>> > the various JT modes - though I've been back to doing mostly CW on HF
>> > the last year or so.  On VHF and UHF, I'm mostly on 927 and 440 MHz,
>> > where I do a little DMR and a lot of P25.  I've also dabbled with
>> > satellites, weak-signal modes, and other esoterica...
>> >
>> > 73 and welcome!    //Brent  wy6s
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2020-07-01 12:22, XIAOFENG GAO wrote:
>> >> Hi there, 
>> >>
>> >> I'm a graduate student at UCLA. Just got my general license and found
>> >> your website. I'm wondering whether the club is still active and
>> >> accepting new members.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Xiaofeng Gao (KN6JQA)
>> >>
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